Some Comments for Jon E. Royeca Reposted
Dahil binura ni Jon ang mga gawa niya, I'm reposting some of my comments here. Too bad hindi ko na-save yung buong shitfest doon.
I: RE: "Pakagat" ni Jon E. Royeca sa Grammar
Oh, please. Don’t patronize me. The only reason I pointed out the (as you claim, intentional) mistake is to show you someone does notice. This site is replete with lapses in grammar and I rarely give a flying fart about them since I have no intention of being the site’s resident editor. I’m not that charitable. That is, I rarely give a fart unless a post is a veritable No Man’s Land of grammatical tragedies. With posts like that it’s too hard to keep one’s peace. So keep your pedantry to yourself… and a digitus impudicus to the frustrated pedagogues of the world.
II: RE: Essay ni Jon E. Royeca tungkol sa Noli Me Tangere
Hi, Jon. To continue: You’ve got the basics right. Your grasp of grammar-- if we can believe your claim that your occasional lapses are intentional-- is excellent and your organization of information is sound. You don’t need my help in these matters. Congratulations. A lot of writers need improvement in these departments.
Your problem, though, is presentation. As I said before, a writer is a communicator and to be a good writer you have to excel in the art of communication. It’s not enough that you present your ideas (or in this case, facts). You have to make people listen. The way you present your stories and this essay is, I’m sorry to say, bland. You can use humor, shock value, sensationalism, and many, many other tactics to grab your readers’ attention and direct them to your ideas. The world is chock full of essays and stories elbowing each other for a moment onstage so your work has to stand out. Your posts in this site aren’t standing out. You’re getting comments only because people know you as the site’s resident douchebag (a position I believe I enjoyed once). Believe me, that’s not the best way to make a reputation as a writer. You should strive instead to be known for the merit of your work. The sordid details of your personality are merely icing on the cake. Earnest Hemingway and Edgar Allan Poe were drunkards but we celebrate their alcoholism because they wrote so well. Similarly, we will hail you as a fucking rockstar despite your abrasive personality if you can show us that you write like a fucking rockstar. Sadly, you don’t. Look at that story you posted about the textmates. No one is commenting because it’s ho-hum. It’s got potential though. The use of textese is your unique selling point. It could have been hilarious. But you seem to lack the sense of humor to execute it well. There are a lot of ways to make that funny enough to be noticed. If I’m to rewrite that I’d probably use a lot of non sequiturs and pop culture references. And I would change the ending. One does not need Paul Muad’Dib’s prescient superpowers to guess what the ending would be. See what I did there? I made a reference to the main character of Frank Herbert’s Dune and Dune Messiah. Cheap trick, sure, but it’s better than just saying your story’s ending is predictable.
Also, informing us that your work has been published in so and so magazine isn’t as big a deal as it used to be. As the 21st century races on, the Internet is making dusty old magazines like The Philippine Panorama and Liwayway increasingly obsolete.
Okay, back to your essay. You’re not saying anything new here. There’s nothing wrong with that. There are very few new things left to say about Noli Me Tangere. So what should you do when you’ve got nothing new to say but have to speak nevertheless? Say it in an interesting manner. I wouldn’t mind it if you’re telling me that the world is round or that we humans have evolved from lower forms of life if the way you’re saying it is engaging enough. I’d gladly sit here and learn about it all over again. I’m your audience. Speak to me in such a way that I’d be forced to drop everything else and listen to you. As it is, your essay is an old man standing on the sidewalk, mumbling to himself while everyone is saying: screw this, I’m going to work. I’m sure you get the point.
This is why I consider j luna as a better writer. He doesn’t just dish out his ideas. He assaults you with them. He makes it hard for people to ignore his creations. Sometimes he uses cheap shots like putting expletives in his titles. I don’t really mind because the content is just as outrageous. If I don’t agree with what he’s saying, it doesn’t matter because he says it with style.
As a last note, I must say that you have the potential to be a good writer but you have to get in touch with the present. Your posts sound like they were written twenty years ago. Except for the textmates thing. I know you wrote them recently because of the subject but Sweet Jove, you make it sound so old. I mean, come on, Ed Roa’s probably our most seasoned big brother here but he doesn’t have a problem plucking the g-strings of our hearts with his verses. See what I did there? I said g-string. Pretty lame, but it’s still an attempt to play with the hackneyed phrase. I recommend that you keep up with the rest of the world by reading material from newer writers. I’m not saying you should forsake the old dudes. Where would we be without famous dead writers? But for the love of God, expand your tastes. Guro manga may not be for you, for instance, but maybe The Sandman is. You’re welcome. :3
PS: See what I did there? That cute little smiley?
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Good Idea
Submitted by squid villanueva on January 4, 2009 - 11:56pm.
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Hmmmm
Submitted by j luna on January 5, 2009 - 12:04am.
Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on January 2, 2009 - 5:17pm.
Baka kasi mabuking kung sino ba talaga ako.
Nakakabangga ko minsan si j. luna, pero wala siyang kaalam-alam kung sino ako.
Harap-harapang naookray 'yong gago.
Take note...Dehins ko siya kilala, napraning ako sa statement na ito!
Eto pa...
Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on January 2, 2009 - 5:48pm.
Sino naman kaya itong si pepebenitez?
Ngayon ko lang nakita ito yan ah.
Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on January 2, 2009 - 5:27pm.
Sinasarapan ako sa larong ito.
Sa ibang araw, iba na ang identity ko.
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Due to insistent public demand
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:24am.
damn! why can't i paste here commnets from microsoft word? i've been trying for 6 times already. does the reply thread has a limit in number of words? i've been trying to post the Koronang Ginto ang some comments in a total of 5,866 words.
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1st episode
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:29am.
sorry guys can't paste here large volume of doc so i'll try to spill in whatever fits the frame. here are some conmversations between Jon E. Royeca and RJ Santos
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 4:21pm.
Mababaw at boring. Nandoon ang tangkang pagsulat sa sariwang paraan, ngunit sadyang nakakahikab ang akdang ito. Tsaka sa sobrang kasimplehan ng tao dito, naging sobrang babaw na niya.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 4:26pm.
Ay sira, mga laman at dugo ang nakapaloob sa kuwentong iyan.
Mga tunay na tao.
Mga taong-tao.
Hindi kasi ako iyong nag-aalok ng mga makabuluhang akda raw, upang isulong ang kabutihan ng ating inang-bayan.
"Ibagsak ang imperyalismo!" sigaw ng isang kakilala ko.
"Ibagsak ang imperyalismo at kapitalistang Amerika!" dagdag pa niya.
Noon iyon.
Alam n'yo kung nasaan na siya ngayon?
Nasa Amerika na, US citizen na siya roon.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 4:42pm.
Hahaha! Partida hindi pa maanghang ang pagbatikos kong iyan, sinabihan na ako ng sira. Sinabi ko lang ang tunay kong nararamdaman sa kwentong ito. Nag-expect kasi ako ng "thunder and lightning". Akala ko kasi sobrang galing niyo. Para kasi kayong henyo kung mangutya. Sa tingin ko ang babaw ng mga tao sa kwentong ito, parang mga taong palaging pinapaikot ng mga prayle noong panahon ng mga Kastila, 'yung mga taong nalulunod sa ilog tuwing may pagoda. 'Tsaka isa pa po, wala naman akong sinabing ET ang mga ikinikuwento niyo dito, alam kong tao sila, 'yun nga lang mababaw. Hehehe...
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 4:51pm.
Bakit? Ano ang gusto ninyo? Iyong katulad ng mga akda ng isa riyan.
Iyong akda na dapat itaob ang mga namamayaning manunulat?
Iyong akdang kailangan manginig ang mga datihan nang manunulat?
Wala akong kainte-intensiyong gawin ang ganyan.
Ang mga kuwento ko ay tungkol sa pagkatao ng mga tao, at wala akong kabalak-balak na magpakabayani.
Hindi dahil sa parang mga robot na utus-utusan lang ang mga karakter sa kuwentong iyan.
Ipinakikita riyan ang kanilang pagiging tao:
Kung ano ang abot ng kanilang mga isipan, ng kanilang damdamin, ng kanilang mga saloobin.
Kaya sila ganyan ay dahil sa sila'y mga tao.
Hindi ko puwedeng diktahan ang mga karakter ko na maging singgagaling ninyo.
Nabasa mo na ang ang kuwentong "A Worn Path" ni Eudora Welty.
Tungkol iyon sa isang Negrang babae na napakasimple ng kukote. Bakit ganoon siya? Dahil gusto ng may-akda na maging tunay na panitikan ang kanyang mga akda.
Ganyan din ang nais kong marating sa panulatan. Ang maging simple ngunit makabuluhan.
At hindi iyong gagawa ng mga karakter na artipisyal para lamang lumabas na matalino at dakila ang akda.
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2nd episode Jon & RJ Santos pa rin
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:32am.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:11pm.
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Bakit? Ano ang gusto ninyo? Iyong katulad ng mga akda ng isa riyan.
Iyong akda na dapat itaob ang mga namamayaning manunulat?
Iyong akdang kailangan manginig ang mga datihan nang manunulat?
Wala akong kainte-intensiyong gawin ang ganyan.
Ang gusto ko lang ay makapagbasa ng mga akdang hindi boring. Isa pa, sa pangungutya niyo sa ibang mga akda sa site na ito, umasa ako ng "thunder and lightning" mula sa inyo. Wala naman palang dapat asahan.
Wala ring nagsabing kailangang magsulat kayo ng ala El Filibusterismo para magustuhan ang akda ninyo.
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Hindi dahil sa parang mga robot na utus-utusan lang ang mga karakter sa kuwentong iyan.
Hindi nga robot, mababaw naman. Nagpaligsahan pa sila sa kababawan.
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Kaya sila ganyan ay dahil sa sila'y mga tao.
Hindi ko puwedeng diktahan ang mga karakter ko na maging singgagaling ninyo.
Nabasa mo na ang ang kuwentong "A Worn Path" ni Eudora Welty.
Tungkol iyon sa isang Negrang babae na napakasimple ng kukote. Bakit ganoon siya? Dahil gusto ng may-akda na maging tunay na panitikan ang kanyang mga akda.
Ganyan din ang nais kong marating sa panulatan. Ang maging simple ngunit makabuluhan.
Hindi ko pa nababasa ang "A Worn Path", pero sigurado akong hindi iyon boring. Hindi katulad ng akda ninyo.
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At hindi iyong gagawa ng mga karakter na artipisyal para lamang lumabas na matalino at dakila ang akda.
Kabaligtaran iyan sa sinabi niyo sa akin dati tungkol sa paghahangad na maging dakila. Sabi niyo lahat ng manunulat iyon ang hangad. Di ba sabi niyo gusto niyo maging sikat, dakila, at mayaman mula sa mga akda ninyo?
Kung ang akdang ito ang gagamitin niyo sa pagyaman, pagsikat, at pagiging dakila, masmabuti pang magsaka na lang kayo. Mapapakain pa ninyo ang pamilya niyo. Makatutulong din kayo sa bansa natin.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:21pm.
You're such an amateur writer.
You don't know that literature must have real people -- be they simple, sagacious, polite, rude, etc. -- since they are the flesh, blood, and savagism of literature.
Hindi nga robot, mababaw naman. Nagpaligsahan pa sila sa kababawan.
Why? Because they are humans! That's the principle intent of literature: Act as mirror of life.
Haven't you learned that yet?
You want my characters to be as intelligent as you are? That would be artificial.
My characters act that way because they mirror life.
kabaligtaran iyan sa sinabi niyo sa akin dati tungkol sa paghahangad na maging dakila. Sabi niyo lahat ng manunulat iyon ang hangad. Di ba sabi niyo gusto niyo maging sikat, dakila, at mayaman mula sa mga akda ninyo?
Sabi ko gusto ko simple ang mga akda ko, at hindi para lumabas na matalino at dakila ang akda.
Isa sa ikinadadakila ng akda ay ang pagiging simple, at walang matinding pagtatangka na maging matalino at dakila.
Please, don't twist my words.
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And you're such a boring writer :D
Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:51pm.
Amateur naman talaga ako. Ikaw, mukhang propesyonal, pero boring. Ubod ng boring. :D
"You don't know that literature must have real people -- be they simple, sagacious, polite, rude, etc. -- since they are the flesh, blood, and savagism of literature."
Di ko alam kung pano kayo nakarating sa konklusyong ito. Pakitang gilas. Alam ko yan. Ikaw, mukhang kailangan mong i-remind ang sarili mo kung ano definition ng word na boring. Pero mukhang hindi na rin kailangan, kasi nai-post niyo na dito under the title na "Ang Koronang Ginto".
Tsaka, nai-delete niyo na pala yung blog entry niyo na "Ang tunay na tula... bow". Iko-quote ko sana yung sinabi niyo dun.
I didn't twist your words, sir. :D I have a memory that works well. Don't know about yours. Most probably yes, because you deleted the entry where you wrote that rubbish that you are now denying and are saying to be being twisted by me.
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3rd episode with J.Luna, Katya & RJ
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:36am.
Submitted by j luna on December 25, 2008 - 4:25pm.
This is safe, walang dapat ikatakot sa mga baril ng militar at di papansinin ng military intelligence.
Perfect short story for a reactionary crowd... Very escapist.
But, good story. A well written story.
Religion Is The Opium of The Masses
-Karl Marx
Why do we say, then, that even among these comrades there are some who have not reached a clear solution of the problem of whom literature and art are for? Is it conceivable that there are still some who maintain that revolutionary literature and art are not for the masses of the people but for the exploiters and oppressors?
Indeed literature and art exist which are for the exploiters and oppressors. Literature and art for the landlord class are feudal literature and art.
-Mao Tse Tung, Talks at Yenan Forum
on ART AND LITERATURE
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Submitted by anakngfaraon on December 25, 2008 - 4:52pm.
I was hoping for an extraordinary plot, especially after all the comments you've posted on the works of others.
Sir, I thought you were agnostic, so I find this piece contrary to your belief (or lack thereof).
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 4:58pm.
Agnostic ako.
But my piece is a short story, a fiction, not about myself.
I am trying to portray there how people are people -- how they think, feel, and act as such.
As to the plot, have you read a piece with a plot similar to this one's, or a story itself similar to this one?
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:17pm.
Manood po kayo ng TV Patrol at 24 Oras, paminsan-minsan may mga kwentong ganito. Lalo na pag wala masyadong maibalita... naibabalita yung mga ganitong boring na kwento.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:27pm.
Could you cite some?
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:34pm.
Katulad nung pagporma daw ng mukha ni Kristo sa pader ng simbahan na dahilan daw ng pagdala ulit ng mga Katoliko.
Meron naman yung pagnakaw sa korona din na ginto somewhere. Dahil sa curiousity, dumami ulit ang pagdalo.
Sus... taga-Pilipinas po ba kayo talaga?
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:38pm.
Such stories have happened since the birth of Christianity.
My story's theme is old, but I have presented it in a new fashion.
That's my cause.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:43pm.
If you think it's written in a new fashion, okay. But it's still boring. Amateurish. And by a professional writer? An amateurish professional writer?
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4th episode transcription ng telenovela
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:38am.
Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:45pm.
Write something that is not boring.
Amateurish, in what way?
Try to edit the story. There will always be time for me to rewrite it, if people like you can cite which part of it is weak and should be edited so that it wouldn't be boring.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 5:54pm.
And that's my point. The whole story is weak. So weak that it's boring. It might be well written, but that's it. It doesn't have anything else going for it. Well written. But boring. And weak.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 8:18pm.
You deem it weak because of your amateurish appraisal of my work: You ridicule my characters for how they behave -- when they are only acting naturally.
I was completely surprised with you. I thought you could already produce competent works, but then you fail in virisimilitude -- one of the major pillars of creative writing.
Hindi nga robot, mababaw naman. Nagpaligsahan pa sila sa kababawan.
My characters are people in the ordinary barangay. Some of them are poor ("ang iba sa amin mangungutang pa ng pantaksi o pantraysikel papunta sa nasabing lugar"). Sister Landa even reads the abbrevation of attorney (atty.) as ey-ti-ti-way.
That's how simple these people are.
And you call them superficial.
But I was only following the rule of virisimilitude in fiction:
Being simple people following blind obedience to some erroneous practices of the Catholic faith, they are not supposed to think, speak, and act like professors, radical college students, or other intellectual individuals.
Boring, for you. Because you still have the vestigial propensities for amateurish writing.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 8:43pm.
Hahahaha! Yo, don't you understand that I judged your characters as superficial? AND, I judged your writing as boring (because it is)? If you don't think they're separate, fine. That's even more amateurish of you. The dictionary should help you. Consult it. I don't know why you're so hung up with me saying your characters are superficial when they are. The point is, this story is boring. But because you wrote it, and because I was expecting something out of the ordinary, I forced myself to read 'til the end, and I found NOTHING.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:24pm.
RJ, superficial and being natural, can't you see the difference?
Please study virisimilitude. It's very important to know it if you want to become a creative writer.
You insist that my characters are superficial because you don't know what virisimilitude is.
That's how simple it is.
Gustave Flaubert once said:
"By railing with idiots, the tendency is to become an idiot yourself."
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:29pm.
Hello? I repeatedly said that I thought your characters are superficial. And you repeatedly agreed with me. I never said you shouldn't use them. I just said they are superficial.
But that had nothing to do at all with the fact that your story is the MOST BORING story I've ever read.
"By railing with idiots, the tendency is to become an idiot yourself."
I agree. Because of you, now, I'm an idiot too.
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5th episode now with Mr. Ed Roa
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:39am.
Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:37pm.
Hello? I repeatedly said that I thought your characters are superficial. And you repeatedly agreed with me. I never said you shouldn't use them. I just said they are superficial.
I never agreed with you on anything. My characters are just being natural. Can't you just understand that? I've been saying that again and again.
"By railing with idiots, the tendency is to become an idiot yourself."
I agree. Because of you, now, I'm an idiot too.
Excuse me. I've never railed with you.
I repel your claims because I can never rail with you, now an idiot.
Sabi ko, natural ang mga characters ko. Tapos, sinabi ba namang I agree with him repeatedly that he thought that my characters are superficial.
Sinungaling.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:47pm.
Hahahah! Who's the idiot?
I think it's the one who can't understand that I thought his characters are naturally superficial.
And that it had nothing to do at all -- NADA -- with the fact that you wrote the most boring story I've come across yet.
Hindi ako sinungaling. Tanga ka lang talaga naturally. :P
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Submitted by ed_roa on December 25, 2008 - 9:39pm.
I normally don't nitpick but you are most deserving to be nitpicked.
If you have to use a "hifallutin" word such as verisimilitude please spell it correctly. If you regard yourself as a good writer put in extra care. I know it's not a typo because you have repeated the mistake often enough.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:40pm.
I'm glad somebody has corrected it.
I've been trying to find someone.
Thanks.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:41pm.
RJ and I have been going over it again and again, but he hasn't noticed.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:44pm.
Unlike you, I don't need to know a word longer than three syllables to say I'm not an idiot.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:25pm.
I don't know which of my works you've read to make you come to that conclusion, but I don't care. :D
A few weeks ago I might've cared about what you said about my works, but after this boring story of yours, you've lost all credibility to me to critic anything. The thing is though, you're so far up your ass that you think your shit tastes so good.
You're nothing now but a bitter old man because you think your work should be liked but you find out that it's not. Then, you take that bitterness out on others' works that are actually liked.
But I understand. You're human.
Wait, are you?
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:31pm.
You're nothing now but a bitter old man because you think your work should be liked but you find out that it's not.
Like what I've told anakngfaraon:
I'm totally helpless if that's how you gauge my story: not a good one, not worth reading. We have our preferences.
I don't impose myself to others.
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6th episode with J. Luna & RJ
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:41am.
Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:34pm.
"I don't impose myself to others."
Right. :D
I'm sure you really believe that.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 9:39pm.
You just can't understand what I've been saying.
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Submitted by RJ Santos on December 25, 2008 - 9:49pm.
Sure. :D
I'm also sure you understand yourself very much. :P
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Submitted by anakngfaraon on December 25, 2008 - 5:25pm.
not sure if I've read one, but the story is too familiar. maybe not even worth writing about. maybe you can try posting something that is a bit more challenging or intruiging.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:28pm.
It is too familiar.
Cite some.
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Submitted by anakngfaraon on December 25, 2008 - 5:39pm.
it's too familiar 'coz it's the same scenes as the ones I've experienced when I was still a Catholic serving in the church. I was actually hoping for the Ka Berting character to do something more and open up the minds of the others, but it didn't happen. this story failed to fulfill my expectations.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 5:42pm.
Ka Berting is another simpleton, because he is a flesh-and-blood human being. He fails to become a reactionary because of the blind acceptance of traditions -- religious and otherwise.
I can't blame Ka Berting. He's just like many of our Catholic countrymen:
Swimming with the current without understanding its depths and strengths.
That's my story.
Get it?
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Submitted by anakngfaraon on December 25, 2008 - 5:55pm.
not a good story. not worth reading. a catholic reading this would gain nothing; any other person might be disappointed. that is why I pointed out your being agnostic, I was hoping, in a theme such as this, you would provoke and challenge.
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 8:17pm.
I'm totally helpless if that's how you gauge my story: not a good one, not worth reading. We have our preferences.
The intent of the story is to point out one of the errors of our Catholic faith: blind obedience to traditions.
Ka Berting is already a preponderant figure for that matter, but just like most Catholics, he would still bow to statues made of cement or wood, pray repetitive prayers, pray while lurching towards the altar in a kneeling position, etc. -- even if he knows that he could all be wrong.
As an agnostic, this is what I have attempted: Point out the wrong traditions.
But Ka Berting fails, for we can never trounce traditions overnight. It will take centuries to topple them, if they could ever be toppled.
That's the essence of my piece: Human traditions, human weaknesses.
And that's where my story triumphs.
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Submitted by j luna on December 25, 2008 - 5:02pm.
“I think you have to judge everything based on your personal taste. And if that means being critical, so be it. I hate political correctness. I absolutely loathe it.”
-Simon Cowell
If you've got a big mouth and you're controversial, you're going to get attention.”
-Simon Cowell
I think he knows how to articulate something that people are entertained by and still be true to the message he's trying to send, ... very aware of himself.
-Simon Cowell
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Submitted by Jon E. Royeca on December 25, 2008 - 8:49pm.
"Ang Koronang Ginto" has for its plot and theme the following:
Members of a parish council in an ordinary village meet to discuss how to invest their parish's earnings.
Suggestions are presented, tackled, and nixed.
Sister Panya suggests that the earnings be used in financing a new golden crown for the statue of their Holy Child.
Ka Berting vehemently opposses it.
An election is conducted to determine which side should be upheld.
Sister Panya's suggestion wins.
The new golden crown attacts old timers and new members of the Catholic faith.
At the end, Ka Berting eventually yields to what he has opposed.
The theme is old, but the way the story is presented is fresh. Why?
Because has anyone read a short story similar to this one: Parish council members meet, debate, and conclude that a golden crown be manufactured for the statue of their Holy Child?
If anyone has, he may present it. And if it's genuine, then I will give up my claim that
"Ang Koronang Ginto" is a short story with an old theme but is presented in a new and fresh fashion.
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season end na
Submitted by Rom on January 5, 2009 - 6:46am.
new
Submitted by rom26factolerin on December 25, 2008 - 10:46pm.
kinabahan talaga ako nung una kong makita ito. akala ko talaga isang pagka ganda-gandang obra maestra ang gawa ni maestrong Jon E. Kureya. kasi naman po ang tindi ng banat niya sa gawa ng iba dito kabilang ang gawa ko, napaka sidhi ng kanyang kumento na aakalain mong may kaalamang naiiba at malalim itong diyos-diyosang ito. utot lang pala. sayang oras ko sa pagbabasa wala man lang aral na nakuha o kahit style man lang na pwedeng magaya mula sa "propesyunal" na tulad mo, kasi aminado ako amateur lang ako e. gawa ba ito ng propesyunal na manunulat? parang pang haiskul e.
totoong boring ang istoryang ito. walang bago, gasgas, at palasak. sintanda ng noli me tangere at el filibusterismo ang tema na di naman nabigyan ng kaukulang approach kung paano ipiprisinta ng kakaiba. wala man lang kakaibang twist, walang matinding problema ang pangunahing karakter, wala rin namang tukoy talagang pangunahing karakter, wala ring redemption o isang makapag babagong isipan sa hulihan ng istorya--samakatwid matabang pa sa sabaw ng sinaing.
ang isang magandang kwento kahit hindi mo idepensa o ipaliwanag sa mga kritiko, merong mangilan-ngilang mambabasa na tatayo at ipagtatanggol ang gawa mo kasi inako nilang maganda ang gawa mo at talagang na involved sila sa ganda ng gawa mo. ang kaso kahit nanay mo hindi ata kumampi sa iyo at nagtanggol sa gawa mo dito, pansin mo? wala man lang isang kaluluwa dito na nagsabing "keep posting" o "ayos ah" o kahit man lang yung talong letrang "oks"
buti pa yung mga nilait mo na mga "pekeng tula" umani ng kahit konting pag sang-ayon sa mga taga rito. ikaw wala? ngayon anong pakiramdam ng ibinalik sa iyo ang ginagawa mo sa iba? baka naman i delete mo rin itong post mo na ito sa sobrang kahihiyan. nakakahiya kasi yung pagmamayabang mo sa isang high-fallutin english word mo na wrong spelling pala hahaha! ang nakakahiya pa si Mr. Ed Roa pa nakapuna. hahaha! pustahan tayo idedelete mo ito gaya nung isa mong post?
panawagan po: kopyahin nyo na agad ang post na ito sa word at konti na lang idedelete na ito sa sobrang kahihiyan ng author.
eto pa ang nakakatuwa: sukat ba namang nagpabuyo ka sa hamon ko na magpost ng maikling kwento mo? hahaha! e di inani mo na ang kagaguhang itinanim mo hahahaha! aliw talaga ako sa iyo galing mo hahaha!
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The point is...
Submitted by j luna on January 5, 2009 - 6:05pm.
Hindi sinisiraan ng "pekeng" Royeca ang "tunay" na Royeca...
Ipinagt-tanggol pa... but since the guy erased his evidences, pinapalabas niya na yung previous post ay anti-true royeca.
Tsktsktsk... I conclude na walang fake Royeca.
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'Tsaka natatandaan niyo pa
Submitted by RJ Santos on January 5, 2009 - 6:39pm.
'Tsaka natatandaan niyo pa ba 'yong sinabi niyang mga manunulat daw na nagbigay ng feedback sa Ang Koronang Ginto niya? Nag-quote siya ng mga sinabi nila pero walang pangalan kasi daw ayaw daw niyang maakusahang nanghihila ng pangalan. Eh, kung impostor 'yon, paano niya nalaman 'yong mga feedback na 'yon. 'Tsaka, kung gusto niyang siraan ang tunay na Jon E. Royeca, di sana nanghila na siya ng kung anu-anong pangalan.
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oo nga
Submitted by isangsakongtubig on January 5, 2009 - 7:06pm.
tama nga yan.
dahil bago lang ako dito, sinimulan ko lahat basahin lahat ng post three years ago kanina lang hahaha, napansin ko may parang ganito ring sagutan nangyari sa katauhang kimchi-- hindi kaya si jon at kimchi ay iisa? hahaha.
napansin ko mula sa mga komento niya sa sinulat ni rom (na anjan pa rin naman), dun mo mabubukong hindi impostor ang nagsulat dahil ang husay at galing nya sa philippine history sabi na nga rin ni rom, ang dami nyang citations at ang mga dates tumatagaktak kabisadong kabisado nya (patayin mo ko kung sasabihin nyang nagreresearch din yung impostor friend ng philippine history-hmmm hindi kaya may schizophrenia yung impostor at biglang nagkaroon ng tunay?)
kung hindi ka babalik, araw araw na lang akong maghihintay
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may na save din ako
may na save din ako pero di kumpleto sa Koronang Ginto na post niya sayang kasi 4 pages na yun e dami pambala sa kanya hehe... im sure yung iba dyan may na save din pwedeng pagdugtungin.
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